Ridicule & The Frustrated Christian

Feb 20, 2013

Cyclist wrote:

Hypothetical question. Would God be pleased if every Muslim converted to Christianity, lets say….First Christian Church? Which as you know are kissing cousins to coC.

johnheadHypothetical question. If Santa Clause were to loose weight would he not be able to deliver presents faster because the reindeer could fly faster? Let’s say he lost half his current weight, would that mean that the sled would fly twice as fast?

Answering that question is as pointless as attempting to answer yours.

 

Cyclist wrote:

I didn’t ask you asshat. Why do you feel the need to insert yourself in conversations between other people? Besides your input is rarely intelligent or insightful.

johnheadI know you didn’t ask this ass-hat anything.  I felt like inserting myself because it’s fun, not to mention this is a public forum.

My input is "rarely intelligent or insightful" says the man debating the wants and desires of an imaginary, invisible being.  Yea, your views about my intelligence or insight do not carry much weight when your idea of intelligence and insight revolves around magic and superstition.

Why not tackle these problems why you are at it.  How does the tooth fairy afford to pay every child for their teeth?  What does the tooth fairy do with the teeth?  Do you think the tooth fairy resents Santa getting milk and cookies?  Why does the Easter Bunny lay eggs when rabbits are mammals?

I figure if you’ve found the answers to the mysteries of one invisible being you might be able to answer those mysteries as well.

Cyclist wrote:

Again, you compare God with children’s fairy tales, how bright you are. You’ll know the difference one day but unfortunately for you it will be too late. Have fun with your useless and pointless life.

johnheadI am not just comparing your god to children’s fairy tales; I am outright telling you that your god is nothing but a children’s fairy tale. Your god’s inability to act upon reality is indistinguishable from the inability of Santa, the Tooth Fairy, or the Easter Bunny to act upon reality.  There is a book about your god and there are books about the other guys. Your god requires faith to be believed, so do those other guys.

You are even using your god to instill fear just like stories about the bogey-man, who isn’t real either you will notice.  I’m a grown adult, stories about monsters hiding in the dark no longer scare me and, unlike you, similar stories about celestial monsters coming for me after I die no longer scare me either.

Threats of Hell and Damnation are the last resort of religion.  You have given up attempting to demonstrate your god claim with evidence or reason and that frustrates you.  Instead of considering that you might be wrong and were taken in by a children’s fairy tale, at the cost of your ego, it feels better to tell me that I will be burned alive forever at the hands of your celestial monster a.k.a. GOD.

Cyclist wrote:

Dude, I am far from frustrated. Your just not worth wasting anymore time on and I really don’t feel the need to try and prove anything to someone as closed minded and lacking of any real intellect as you. You seem to really enjoy adding ridicule into all your post in regards to people who do believe and it frustrates you that people are not wowed by your insights.

When you start using ridicule and sarcasm, you have lost.

johnheadIf you’re not frustrated then what are you?  It’s not a polite reaction to tell another individual who says they have not reason to believe anything you say regarding knowledge of a god that they will be tormented for all eternity.  It’s actually kind of sick when you think about it.  I’m sure you would never willingly drop someone into a huge fire pit and then take pleasure from the sight and sound of that person writhing in agony, even for the amount of time it would take them to actually die.

It really says something about your religion and the god you claim exists when you write that not only will I be burned alive after I die but that the writhing and agony will never end; that somehow I deserve to burn in agony forever simply because I refuse to accept what you are asserting as fact without convincing evidence.

I love how you manage to convince yourself that someone who is CONSTANTLY ASKING YOU FOR EVIDENCE is somehow close-minded.  An actual close-minded person refuses to consider an idea no matter what.  Not only have I considered the idea of religion and your specific god, for many years I believed what you are saying to be correct.  Now that I have the ability to apply reason and a willingness to objectively examine evidence, I find that that the reasons and so-called evidence for your god are fallacious. Examining a claim and making the determination that it the claim is unsubstantiated is NOT closed-minded.

The kind of open-mindedness you are advocating is actually called credulity which is a state of willingness to believe in one or many people or things in the absence of reasonable proof or knowledge.  That type of open-mindedness is not the good kind.  Real intellect is being able to discern between the good and the bad open-mindedness.

I do really enjoy ridiculing your claims but I do so for a good reason.  I find ridicule to be an awesome tool in revealing absurdities.  The magical claims in the bible are in fact ridiculous, strip away the religious reverence and voila, instant ridicule.  I’m not frustrated by your failure to see bull-$hit when it’s right in front of you.  I look forward to the next ridiculous argument you come up with attempting to make sense of all the bull-$hit so I can expose it too.

You are incorrect in your belief that ridicule and sarcasm loose debates.  Ridicule and sarcasm are valid tools when used to in concert with valid logic to refute a claim.

Cyclist wrote:

People resort to ridicule and sarcasm when they have nothing worthwhile or relevant to add. Valid arguments don’t need ridicule or sarcasm to prove a point, nor do people who have something intelligent to say. An intelligent argument can stand on its own and has no need for ridicule and sarcasm. An intelligent person can make their arguments without the use of ridicule and sarcasm.

You have exposed nothing except your inability to make an argument without ridicule and sarcasm.

johnheadWrong. Have you ever laughed at a comedian? If so you were probably laughing at his having ridiculed something or addressing something with sarcasm. Those things do not preclude the comedian being correct about something worthwhile or relevant.

You are technically correct when you say arguments do not need ridicule or sarcasm to be valid; with that I will agree.

Let me see if this helps. Ridicule and Sarcasm are not needed in the same way that PECAN PIE doesn’t need to be WARM or served with VANILLA ICE-CREAM. Although I could eat cold PECAN PIE, as valid and intelligent as it may be by itself, if I can make it hot and throw a scoop of vanilla on that bitch, I’m going to do that instead. The heat and ice-cream just drive home the flavor of the PECAN PIE.  Likewise, ridicule and sarcasm drive home the absurdity of your religious claims and arguments.  Your claims and arguments are ridiculous, I am just ‘driving home the flavor’.

What I expose with every post is that your god is nothing but a figment of the imagination and you can’t stand it when I show you using ridicule and sarcasm.

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