Response to a Brit on Gun Ownership

Feb 15, 2014

The person who’s handle is Bannik is a British citizen who is active on a website I frequent and we often but heads on the issue of the 2nd Amendment.  The comment was in response to a video titled Badass Baby.

Bannik wrote,

What does the badass baby expect gun control to do? Eliminate all crime?… plus there is no evidence to suggest that guns actually make you safer… most likely the ability to own the gun by the "citizen" helps the "criminal" obtain the firearms with more ease…

nothing wrong with guns, everything is wrong with EVERYONE being able to own one… owning a gun is not a RIGHT its a privilege, act like it.

In Britain it may be a privilege Bannik, in the United States is it a Right guaranteed by the constitution and constitutional rights may not be infringed except via due process of law.  The Supreme Court of the United States has ruled that the right vests in individuals, not merely collective militias.  Everyone who is born, or becomes a citizen of the United States and reaches the majority age (18) is guaranteed certain inalienable rights.  These rights cannot be suspended except via due process of law.

For example, US citizens have a 4th Amendment right against unreasonable searches and seizures.  I can’t just walk into someone’s home without their consent and start looking for evidence of a crime.  However if probable cause is found a Court can be petitioned for a warrant which allows me to search and seize anything that may prove that person committed a crime.  Likewise, if there is a trial the Judge can place a gag order which suspends someone’s 1st Amendment right to speak about the trial and even imprison that person if they violate that order.

Regarding the 2nd Amendment, if someone pleads or is found guilty of the charge of domestic violence then they forfeit their 2nd Amendment rights.  If someone pleads or is found guilty of any felony offense, then they forfeit their 2nd Amendment rights.  If years later that person has committed no other offenses they may petition a court to restore those rights and expunge their record but what you’re advocating does not involve due process of law.  You see the government must be also to show good cause for suspending the right via the person’s own actions.

Your idea would be to have everyone give the government good cause for allowing them to keep and bear arms, it doesn’t and shouldn’t work that way.  In states where people must jump threw hoops and give a compelling reason why they should be ALLOWED to carry a firearm only the WEALTHY and POLITICAL classes are able to obtain carry permits.  Look at Senator Feinstein in California, that bitch has spent her entire political career trying to gut the 2nd Amendment but she herself has a very rare permit to carry a concealed weapon.  Fucking hypocrite.  Rosie O’Donnell is another cunt who calls for more civilian disarmament and it was discovered that she had hired ARMED GUARDS to be near her child while it was away at school.

What you are advocating is that we make what is currently a right and declare it a privilege.  We should convert citizens into serfs.  Nobody likes to talk about it in modern times but the 2nd Amendment is a also a guarantee that the citizens will always have the right to abolish any government which becomes tyrannical.  Now don’t shit a brick, I don’t that is the case now and I hope it never happens but if human history is any measure it seems to happen eventually.

Jefferson wrote in the Declaration of Independence…

We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable Rights, that among these are Life, Liberty and the pursuit of Happiness.–That to secure these rights, Governments are instituted among Men, deriving their just powers from the consent of the governed, –That whenever any Form of Government becomes destructive of these ends, it is the Right of the People to alter or to abolish it, and to institute new Government, laying its foundation on such principles and organizing its powers in such form, as to them shall seem most likely to effect their Safety and Happiness. Prudence, indeed, will dictate that Governments long established should not be changed for light and transient causes; and accordingly all experience hath shewn, that mankind are more disposed to suffer, while evils are sufferable, than to right themselves by abolishing the forms to which they are accustomed.

(Emphasis Added)

In the grand scheme of things the 2nd Amendment exists as a last resort measure, a guarantee if you will that no ruling class or authoritarian regime can ever rule unchecked over the people, which would also include foreign powers invading the country.  Now you can cry about that never happening and perhaps you might be right but we mere mortals cannot tell the future so why risk it.

In the short term or personal level, the 2nd Amendment exists to guarantee that the most effective tool is available for defense of self, family, home and community against individuals who might engage violent criminal behavior, that is to say, the firearm.  Current law dictates that all able bodied men are subject to being called up by the elected Sheriff during breeches of the peace or during natural disasters.  The militia spoken of in the 2nd Amendment is not the standing military.  The militia is every able body male, between 17 and 45 according to Federal code, who has not renounced their US Citizenship.  How else do you think the draft was legally justified?

by | Categories: Musing |

Share with others

No Responses so far | Have Your Say!

Comments are closed.