Civility and Taking Offense
I did tag where I first encountered your behavior, and you responded. That’s okay, you don’t have to act like I did that, even though I did. But that’s okay, I can see there will be know convincing you to be civil at any point. You call me immature, that’s fine. I haven’t admitted to the opposite. I just think everybody should be held accountable for what they say, you included. that’s all. Deny away, but I did tag the post where this all encountered, going on two weeks ago, now
As far as I am concerned I have been civil. Your definition of civil include far more requires than mine. Being civil simply means not engaging in hostility toward another person. I don’t know what you think it means.
In what way would you hold someone else accountable for their thoughts. What kinds of punishments would you like to see handed down.
I don’t know man. I just know that if somebody insulted your intelligence, you’d get pretty upset too. That’s what I was doing. Sticking up for the people you were essentially referring to as clueless, dumb, etc. for believing in God. Only to turn it to say that you don’t like religion being shoved down your throat, which I agree with, but I was trying to make you see that you were doing the same thing on here, with not believing. I believe we can all coexist( I hate that word but seems fitting) without insulting each other’s belief system, whether it involves a god or not. Do you at least see where I’m coming from in this respect?
Why would I get upset at someone insulting me? It does me no injury when someone says something mean to me. It neither picks my pocket nor breaks my leg. The only reason people become angry over insults is because they choose to become angry.
You were sticking up for people over things you imagined were happening. I never said anyone was dumb for believing in gods,’credulous’ sure,’misinformed’ certainly, but not dumb or stupid. I have accused people of being ignorant, which is synonymous with clueless, but ignorance is not stupidity. Ignorance is a lack of knowledge or understanding, in that regard I am ignorant or clueless of many things. I admit my ignorance and religious people do not. It is not an insult.
I do not think I’ve ever told someone not to shove their religion down my throat. I do not want them using the government to promote their religion but they are free to speak to me about it, I’m happy to listen to what they have to say only because I enjoy debate and look forward to eviscerating their faith claims with contradictory evidence and logic.
I am not doing "the same thing" here. This is an open message board. I can no more force my views on anyone than they can force their views on me. Everyone involved here must willingly come to this website and look at what is being written.
You believe we can all coexist, great, I am not promoting the separation or extermination of anyone. Not insulting someone’s beliefs system would require limits on free inquiry, open-mindedness, and the pursuit of ideas for their own sake. There is no polite way to suggest to someone that they have devoted their life to folly. Being offended is subjective and nothing more than a whine. "I’m offended by that!" Well so what? They can be offended.
I do see where you are coming from, I just think you are wrong. Now you may choose to take offense at that but I refer you back to what I just wrote on the matter.