snschick wrote:
The point is i wouldnt be asked to wear a head dress because i wouldn’t even apply. I am all for Christian companies. TN has the will to fire law so if i owned my own company and i heard any talks about atheism or anything like it they would be fired on the spot.

Wow and you’re not prejudice at all.

snschick wrote:
I’m prejudice because i want God fearing people to work for me? I think all companies should be allowed to ask their employees what religion they practice. most Christians have a higher moral standard than others. It would make for a better work environment

danteheadYou are admittedly prejudice and you claim you have a higher moral standard.
Your hypocrisy knows no bounds I guess.
What higher moral standard do you think Christians profess over atheist?
If anything it is atheist who have the higher standard for morality. We believe this life to be the only one we will have. So it is of great importance to us that we make everyday count , better than the last , for a better tomorrow and a better future over all.
Christians spend their entire lives waiting for the next one always thinking that this life isn’t as meaningful as the next one will be. Almost like a teenager who gets their first car and is told next year they will be getting a new Ferrari Enzo.  The teenager with their first car isn’t going to care and respect the car when they think they will be getting a Ferrari in the next year.,Christians do the same thing. They don’t treat this life with the utmost respect and care because they think there is something better for them ,they just have to die to get there

Birdy wrote:
If I believed that there was no Heaven (rewards/peace/happiness) and no hell (punishment/torture/misery) then I would be out there killing and stealing and every other nasty behavior because being good or nice would be useless.

danteheadSo you’re only good and do good deeds because you think you will be rewarded. Not because you’re doing good to just out of the goodness of your heart. Pretty shallow of a person you must be.

That’s like going down to the homeless shelter and feeding them only to ask them later what are they going to do for you, because apparently you expect to be rewarded.

I have 2 people living in my house at this moment that are homeless with out my help. I’m not helping them because I expect to be getting brownie points with god, nor am I helping them out because I think I will be rewarded for doing it. Even though its put a little bit of strain on my finances and my home life, I do it because if I am able to help someone then I will.

So how would my choices here be , as you put it , useless because I don’t believe in the afterlife? According to the bible I am destined for hell anyways for apostasy and blasphemy.

Though if you think about it, faith of the after life, doesn’t stop priest from molesting kids, doesn’t stop religious people from committing murders, theft, rape, etc.

“With or without religion, you would have good people doing good things and evil people doing evil things. But for good people to do evil things, that takes religion.” – Steven Weinberg

Birdy wrote:
I’ve been taking the “homeless” into my own home for years. I fed them, bought them clothes and supplies, treated them like family.
It is a big strain on my finances for sure. My property has been used and sometimes destroyed. All the people I helped have gone on and not a single one was there for me when I needed help. Yet, I still take the “homeless” in along with every stray cat and dog.
If I didn’t believe that there was a higher power giving me some sort of credit for what I do then I would stop doing it.

danteheadThen by your own admission you are not a good person because you genuinely care , you are only good because you think it will make god happy.  Thus making you disingenuously good.  Why would god want someone who did not do good things out of the kindness of their heart but only because you feel obligated to make god happy?

I’m only a good parent because I believe that it makes god happy not because I want to be a good parent.

I’m only a good neighbor because I believe it makes god happy not because I want to be a good neighbor and respect my own neighbors.

I’m only a faithful husband or wife because I believe it will make god happy, not because I genuinely want to be a faithful husband or wife.

Your religion has not made you into a genuinely good person.  You just use it to pretend that you are because you feel obligated to do good only for the sake of god and not for the sake of good itself.