You are literally fucking retarded if you think mandatory gun safety courses are a bad thing. They are there to protect the gun owners and those around them, not to take away gun rights. You might as well start taking away drivers license exams, or any sort of training for dangerous equipment if you hold that attitude. Hell if someone wants to preform surgery on a member of their family, they should be able to right? Even though they don’t have the training, it’s their right to look after themselves, right? I should be able to get a construction job operating the heavy machinery, as long as I figure it out myself, right? Any time you are using dangerous tools, machinary, or doing dangerous procedures, you are required to get training in order to prevent harm to yourself and others; guns are no different.
Fuck you and your shitty toxic heartless philosophy.
Alright, I really shouldn’t but I’m going to do you a favor and parse the hippy dippy horse shit from back to front.
Fuck you and your shitty toxic heartless philosophy.
This last bit is the dead give away that you are a bleeding heart leftist idiot. I’m not saying that just to insult you, but in the hopes that you remove your head from your little leftist ass.
Advocating for a free citizenry that takes responsibility for their own actions is not a “toxic heartless philosophy”. It’s the consequence of the philosophy that places liberty above one’s own selfish and self-centered want to tell everyone else in their society how the fuck they should carry themselves.
“I would rather be exposed to the inconveniences attending too much liberty than those attending too small a degree of it.” – Thomas Jefferson
Regardless of your awareness, your so-called philosophy seeks to infantalize grown adults by mandating they jump through hoops under penalty of law in order to own something they by natural law have a right to own. That is a tyranny.
Any time you are using dangerous tools, machinary, or doing dangerous procedures, you are required to get training in order to prevent harm to yourself and others; guns are no different.
That’s bullshit as anyone who’s worked outside keeping their mothers basement clean would know. When I was 16 I was put on a full sized tractor, no seat belt, no cab, so safety disconnect if I fell off. I was shown the basic controls and tasked by my grandfather to bush-hog a 20 acre field. Yet magically I had the common god damn sense to know that if operated it like a dumb ass, one of the potential consequences was that could fall off be cut to pieces.
And yet here I am almost 20 years later and I’m just fine. I was NEVER required to pass any sort of fucking training course nor was I breaking any laws in doing so. The tractor was privately owned. The land was privately owned. I didn’t require the permission of big brother because that is the nature of liberty.
You are moronically confusing the requirements placed on companies and their employees with what people OWN and DO privately. And indeed guns are no different, if we were talking about a guns in the setting of a company and it’s employees. If I work as an armed guard then sure, there would be mandatory safety training. If I don’t like that then I don’t have to work for that company. That is the nature of liberty, the freedom to choose. What you describe IS NOT the same, as you or I are discussing the purchase of a firearm for PERSONAL use.
I should be able to get a construction job operating the heavy machinery, as long as I figure it out myself, right?
That all depends on the construction company and if they trust you with their equipment. Here again you are make a false comparison. We are discussing personal firearm ownership, not firearm ownership as it relates to employment.
However if you purchase the heavy machinery yourself and kill yourself on your own private property then it’s not the government’s fault you were an incompetent moron. And even if you completed some sort of safety training, the completion of said training is no guarantee that you will, over time, become relaxed, fail to obey it and kill or injure someone in the future.
I worked as a cop for 5 years and I know of cops who were literally 15+ year veterans, completed dozens of schools with their weapons, and still blew a fucking hole in the back of their patrol unit because they just assumed they knew what they were doing and stopped paying attention. You cannot fix human nature with legislation.
Even though they don’t have the training, it’s their right to look after themselves, right?
Yes, as it relates to an employee / employer relationship. You want to work, then you get the training. But again, this has fuck all to do with PERSONAL firearm ownership.
Hell if someone wants to preform surgery on a member of their family, they should be able to right?
If the family member on whom the procedure will be performed is a legal adult and agrees then yes. That is the nature of liberty. You nor I have any power to decide for them.
This is a great example of the fundamental difference between how one thinks with their head up their ass compared to someone who doesn’t. You pretend that you are so fucking special that you know what is best for everyone else. I realize, on the other hand, there are dumb people in this world and though I may do my best to fully inform them of their stupidity, I value my liberty to much to infringe on there’s to do something not in their best interest.
You might as well start taking away drivers license exams, or any sort of training for dangerous equipment if you hold that attitude.
Driver’s license exams are only required if you intend to operate a motor vehicle on a public roadway. I do not require a drivers license to purchase a motor vehicle. I do not require one to operate that motor vehicle on private property.
A case in point would be muscle cars designed and used purely for drag racing. A classic American Muscle car can go 0-60 in less than six seconds. These races take place at private tracks, on private property. No drivers license or proof of training is required to engage in this sort of obviously dangerous activity. The track owner may require restraints and a helmet but there is no law (at least in my state) that dictates it.
They are there to protect the gun owners and those around them, not to take away gun rights
I know you think that, but that’s only because you have your head shoved up your ass. Safety courses are NO guarantee that the participant will not act in an unsafe manner after completing the course.
And gun safety requirements have been used to take away gun rights. Once you remove your head from you ass go and read what the D.C. Police department did to defy a Federal court ruling overturning the D.C. gun ban. It’s a simply matter requiring special “government classes”, raising the fees associated with the training to a level most people cannot afford, and only giving the class a few times a year on dates most working people are unable to attend.
I’m not being paranoid, that happened and it happened despite all those like you crowing that mandatory training doesn’t exist to “take away gun rights”.
You are literally fucking retarded if you think mandatory gun safety courses are a bad thing.
Again, you have your head planted firmly up your own ass so I expect this would be your view on the matter.
To be clear, nothing the matter with safety courses, it’s the “mandatory” part where you fuck up.