I think it’s funny that people who claim God doesn’t exist give so much attention to the subject. I don’t believe in the tooth fairy, so I don’t expound to much on the matter. However, the tooth fairy hasn’t offended me the way you guys are offended with the God of the Bible. You guys are proof the Bible is true.
Romans 1
**18For the wrath of God is revealed from heaven against all ungodliness and unrighteousness of men, who by their unrighteousness suppress the truth. 19For what can be known about God is plain to them, because God has shown it to them. 20For his invisible attributes, namely, his eternal power and divine nature, have been clearly perceived, ever since the creation of the world, in the things that have been made. So they are without excuse. 21For although they knew God, they did not honor him as God or give thanks to him, but they became futile in their thinking, and their foolish hearts were darkened. 22Claiming to be wise, they became fools, 23and exchanged the glory of the immortal God for images resembling mortal man and birds and animals and creeping things.**
You may think the Bible is untrue or that God doesn’t exist, but if I didn’t believe in trucks and stepped out into oncoming traffic I would suffer the consequences thereof. In the same way one day you will pass from time into eternity and give an account for ever idle word spoken. Mock Jesus all you want, but one day every knee will bow and every tongue will confess. Have either of you actually read the Bible? If you want to read fairy tales read some of Richard Dawkins or Darwin….they have produced the best material when it comes to fairy tales for grown ups.:0) – Luther


We pay attention to the subject because although the deity people like you tout is mythical, you are real. Your deity may have no bearing on the real world but you most certainly do. We pay attention to the subject because you use appeals to the authority granted by your imaginary friend to deny basic rights to other human beings; because you constantly attempt to wedge your imaginary being into our civil government and our public schools. You think we are offended by your god but that is nonsense, you god is imaginary, what offends us are the cruel and stupid things done by the pious in the name of this delusion.

I need not pay any mind to your magical book Luther. It was written by superstitious men in a time when ignorance ruled the day and men appealed to magical sky beings to reveal knowledge to them.

Quite right, I do not think the Bible is of divine origin or that your god exists. However, this does not require me to lack “belief in trucks” because we have CLEAR evidence that trucks exist and that they are creations of mankind; nor would step into oncoming traffic because, having established their reality, I could deduce the consequences for myself. Trucks are demonstrable, we do not need a TRUCK BIBLE or TRUCK PASTOR or TRUCK CHURCH to tell us about the all-powerful trucks which will certainly run us over if we lack faith and fail to abide by the law handed down by the great TRUCK DRIVER in the sky not to cross the street. What an asinine comparison.

You have absolutely no way of knowing what happens to me or any other human being after we die and in making such a claim you indict yourself of being stupid at the very least and at most a liar. I will mock Jesus, and Buddha, and Allah, and Mohammad, and any other so-called holy man who claims divine warrant to rule over other men and punish men for their thoughts or their doubts.

That whole knee bowing and tongue confessing crap was reverse engineered by the way. That passage is speaking of Cyrus the Great, not Jesus.

Your hatred for those who make claims based upon evidence like Dawkins and Darwin, and who further our knowledge of the world to the detriment of your superstition is palpable. I’m glad to know that they piss you off.

Truth and reality is that we will all die one day. There is no good reason to not believe in god. To deny God is taking a gamble that there is nothing after this life. Evidence seen through the eyes of faith shows us a world too complex to just happen naturally. You don’t like the word faith but you have more faith than I to not believe in a creator. – Chris



There is no good reason to not believe in god? Well you see the reason NOT to is because the claim LACKS EVIDENCE. The only reason you have to believe in a magic sky daddy is because you think your magic sky daddy is going to do you special favors.

The absurdity of your statement reveals itself when applied to other mythical beings. For example.

There is no good reason to not believe in [Pegasus].
There is no good reason to not believe in [Ganesha].
There is no good reason to not believe in [Dionysus].

The REASON to lack belief in any of those gods, as I assume you do, is because there is not a shred of evidence supporting that those entities are or were real. The same logic applies to your god in so much as the REASON to lack belief is that NO EVIDENCE exists to support such a being.

Speaking of gambles, here is the gamble you have taken. This is the only life, the only existence, which we know we have. Would you risk throwing away something you KNOW you have in the mere hope that you will receive something for which you have no KNOWLEDGE?

Why would you surrender the one thing that separates you from the rest of life on this planet, your ability to reason and the freedom to think for yourself? Why would you surrender this one life you know you have and enslave yourself to some dogma, some superstition, or some god who claims to have sacrificed himself to himself in order to stop himself from sending you to a place of eternal torment that he himself created? Why give yourself over to wish thinking because of an some empty promise, passed down from primitive tribes, of another life after you die?

That is a gamble I will not take, only the gullible and the stupid would risk such a thing.

The “eyes of faith”? The eye of ignorance is what you really mean. The “eyes of faith” look upon a complex world and instead of actually searching for real answers they see what they wish, in your case, a god and a universe which revolves around you. You look at the world with “eyes of faith” and because you want to see the finger of some god that give a shit about you, that is exactly what you see. The “eyes of faith” require no evidence, indeed evidence must be ignored, evidence is antithetical to and negates any need of faith.

You end on the “it takes more faith not to believe” nonsense. What a bunch of tripe. You know your position is a weak one and because you cannot defend it you attempt to drag me down to your level. Do you require faith to NOT believe in big foot, fairies, leprechauns, or unicorns? Of course not; you do not hold any belief in those things because they have never been shown to exists nor do you require any kind of faith to lack belief in them. Your god is no different from Zeus, Aphrodite, Apollo, on and on with all the other gods you do not believe in because they lack evidence.

I contend that we are both atheists. I just believe in one fewer god than you do. When you understand why you dismiss all the other possible gods, you will understand why I dismiss yours.